Curse

gameshoes3003 · Nov 08, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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I already wait long enough for an AB battle or For Aspenwood. Don't need more people flooding it, then there would be no battle for like 2 hours...
The longest I waited for a battle was about 30 minutes... it was on that double faction weekend... craziness I tell you!

cellardweller · Nov 08, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

meh, no real reason too. You earn it just as much from monster farming in HM. A better solution would be to increase the AB rewards to the point where it can match FFF and HM farming.

chowmein69 · Nov 08, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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its good how it is right now

Snow Bunny · Nov 08, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by skanvak

((I made a search and only a complain topic got out))

The FFF is not an acceptable way of gainning faction point and it is an obvious exploit of the system. The last time I tried it, it was done with 3 heroes so that people only have to sit and wait.

Why is it an exploit : because the quest is validated before the quest is even taken. Therefore the aim of the quest is NOT really fulfilled. The luxons/Kurzick that should spawn and be wipe out are simply avoid.

As the people don't do the mission technically they are not helping their faction, they are stealing the point. They don't contribute to moving the fontier BUT are the most rewarded for no effort.

How to nerf it : quite simple, the quest should update only after it is taken, theirfore the ennemy will spawn making it harder to run. Finally, a point should be validated only if the ennemy that spawn are killed. This way it would not be possible to run the quest, that is only fair.

If playing the game resume to sit and do something else while people farm for you, the title is meaningless => less willing to play. I mean this is a real problem!

Best regards,

Skanvak
Lord of "La maison des Drakkens"

o noes!

"I want people to ab all of their faction and waste their time, like me. Please Anet, some of us enjoy masochism and have epic quantities of time on our hands, and would like others to go through the same. Please nerf a perfectly valid farming system for this reason."

Please uninstall GW now.

I beseech you

lishi · Nov 08, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by DarkGanni

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Someone wants to ruin someone's fun again.

I understand why people want keep it, but how is fun?

Faer · Nov 08, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Uhm... It's boring...

So is watching No Opposing Party messages fly by while trying to get into an Alliance Battle.

Let's nerf AB, because it's boring.

skanvak · Nov 08, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

_ I partly agree that seeing the "no opposing party" is boring after some time. That should be fixed in a way. (May be giving faction point for people not finding an opposing party, too good for leechers but it wouln't be more stupid that allowing FFF).
_ Farming in HM is ok because IT IS playing the game. FFF is not playing, just getting the point free.
_ Am I 1 and a half year late? Sure I am, but better late than never. I prefer this closed now (I am only rank 5) than let it go forever.

wetsparks · Nov 08, 2007, 09:37 AM // 09:37

since fff is the fastest way to get points, thus its name. It still takes an incredibly long time to max the title.

For the sake of even numbers, 10,000 points per hour, donate that to your alliance is 20,000 points to the title track, per hour. Five hours of fff to get 100,000 points, 50 hours to get 1,000,000 points, and 500 hours to get 10,000,000 points.

Since it seems like waiting to get into AB takes as long as the AB itself, it would take well over 1000 hours of AB and waiting to get into AB to max the title out that way. Isn't that a lot of fun.

I don't know how many points per hour HM farming produces but I imagine it would be somewhere in between 500 and 1000 hours and would be every bit as boring going over the same hand full of zones clearing everything or clearing a certain run as fff is and ab gets.

Either way, if you want to max the title out sometime this century, then you need fff. If you don't care about the title, farm HM, do AB/aspenwood.

btw, /not signed

MithranArkanere · Nov 08, 2007, 05:02 PM // 17:02

The only thing they should do is update the Nightfall and Factions point earning to be like GW:EN, so bosses give more points the more kills you have made, not just the 25 you have to do now.

The quick kill qusts are good as they are. Boring, but rewarding.

Knight Othin Of War · Nov 08, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

farming is bad enough already, so why make it worse

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kradens · Nov 08, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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its something most people do with guildies and friends. anything that promotes getting together in a game like GW is worth keeping imo.

Dronte · Nov 08, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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No real reason for nerfing it.

pkodyssey · Nov 08, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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AB is slower than hell compared to FFF.

Every couple days I do the FFF with hero's and henchies. Anything more than that gets boring fast.

I have gotten so proficient at it that I can do it in about 90 sec. Bind flags to my "F1-F4" keys and start clicking away. I dont do more than 10K at a time because I dont want Anet thinking I am botting. Takes me about 30-40 min for 10K, with spawning and mistakes.

Vinraith · Nov 08, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

FFF is kind of cheap, but faction takes ages to get. The obvious solution is to nerf FFF while significantly raising faction rewards so that it's reasonable to gain the stuff through actual gameplay.

Aera Lure · Nov 08, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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The OP wants this nerfed because..?

Seriously, its not an exploit. Its simply an alternative to what is a very, very long title track with a lot of monotony any way you choose to complete it.

Tempest47 · Nov 08, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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It makes Savior of the Kurzicks feasible without being completely bored out of your mind because I talk on vent when im doing it

pumpkin pie · Nov 08, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38

rofl....

NO!

althought I don't FFF, because its boring! i love to kill pixel monsters! but what other players wants to do with their time is their business. i think its just stupid to waste time doing FFF but hey, its their time.

Yawgmoth · Nov 08, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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this is simply an exploit, period.
If the quest did work only after taken, FFF would still be doable with a group of players and nearly as fast.

Coifmeister · Nov 10, 2007, 02:26 PM // 14:26

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

A better solution would be to increase the AB rewards to the point where it can match FFF and HM farming.

Think this hits the nail on the head. Im R6 kurzick mostly from AB (with a few FFF runs when i was in a certain HzH owning guild) of which im proud of. It shows i've put a lot of time into AB which I love.

I would hope it would make me more attractive to other players making a PUG , but it doesnt really. For all they know i could have done a repeatable quest 6000 times.

FFF sucked the life out of me. If you're braindead enough to do it go ahead.

I do wish theyd nerf it though.

Swift Thief · Nov 10, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

How is it an exploit? /notsigned